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AfterDragon Age: The Veilguard’s release, many compared both its structure and ending to Mass Effect 2. I myself saw a lot of parallels, with the latest adventure in Thedas including companion loyalty-like missions, questlines in more linear open zone locations, and a final story arc that’s reminiscent of the famous suicide mission aboard The Normandy.
As it turns out, The Veilguard did partly draw inspiration from the Mass Effect series. Speaking on the comparisons, creative director John Epler tells me the team looked atBioWare’s past successes – including Mass Effect 2 – when it came to The Veilguard’s approach to storytelling, as well as choice and consequence.
“I’ve been at Bioware for 17 years, so I worked on Mass Effect 2. Trick Weekes [Veilguard lead writer and narrative designer] worked on Mass Effect 2, there’s a bunch of people who’ve been on a bunch of different games at Bioware” says Epler, who points to that tenure including Mass Effect 2’s ending. “One of the things that we really wanted to make sure was that there was a sense of consequence [in The Veilguard] - not just to the choice you make, but to the content you engage with, the content you don’t engage with.”
Warning: some story spoilers ahead.
Past and present
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Another struggle was making sure the actions you can take and the companion quests succeed at feeling meaningful, without your decisions “arbitrarily gating you off”. As an example, Epler says that some original parameters started to “feel really artificial” – like completing three follower missions before something would unlock. The solution – having all of your choices wrapped up in the final questline, and making sure they all mattered in the end game – was an approach the team decided on to “give that balance of player choice”. As a result, whether or not you chose to do something with your companions, there are still consequences to those actions.
The storyteller(Image credit: EA)“It felt like we needed to do something”: How Varric Tethras went from nearly being left out of Dragon Age: The Veilguard to becoming a foundational character
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(Image credit: EA)“It felt like we needed to do something”: How Varric Tethras went from nearly being left out of Dragon Age: The Veilguard to becoming a foundational character
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“It felt like we needed to do something”: How Varric Tethras went from nearly being left out of Dragon Age: The Veilguard to becoming a foundational character
Not unlike the way you complete loyalty missions in Mass Effect 2 as Shepard, investing time and effort to help and get to know your companions as Rook will help them become a Hero of the Veilguard. Additionally, a major choice at the close of each personal questline influences a character’s outlook and legendary armor set. This in turn feeds into the final quest of the game, with heroes having a higher chance at surviving as you face an ancient elven god.
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“Set piece moments”
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“The Citadel walk in Mass Effect 1 is still, in my mind, one of the best final sequences in a game I’ve ever played.“John Epler, creative director
“The Citadel walk in Mass Effect 1 is still, in my mind, one of the best final sequences in a game I’ve ever played.”
“Obviously, that’s not what we do,” Epler continues. “But a lot of the things that we pulled into The Veilguard, like the ending, the general structure, and also – honestly, I think something that I really wanted to do for this one, that Mass Effect has always done so well – is I love big set piece moments in the story.”
“I love getting [in] the Siege of Weisshaupt, having the face in the clouds. Elgar’nan bringing the moon and sun into an eclipse is still probably my favorite scene in the game,” Epler says. “And a lot of that came down to us asking the [same] question each time: ‘what is the coolest thing that we can do here, and does it make sense in the lore?’ One of the stories of Elgar’non you hear in previous games is Elgar’non controls the sun and the moon. And it’s like, ‘oh, that’s just a story’ – actually, it’s not. Elgar’non canactually do that. It’s finding that reverence for lore that I think has always been core to Dragon Age, but also bringing that sense of spectacle and excitement.”
As a longtime BioWare fan, I can see how those big sequences that capture that sense of “spectacle and excitement” in Veilguard’s questlines also drew inspiration from Mass Effect. For me, they immediately bring to mind the suicide mission in Mass Effect 2 through the Omega Relay, or the opening moments of Mass Effect 3. But as Epler recalls, there was one particular scene in the first Mass Effect that’s always stayed on with him.
“Part of the Mass Effect series' success in storytelling is they’re not afraid to have those big set piece moments,” Epler says. “And I mean, the Citadel walk in Mass Effect 1 is still, in my mind, one of the best final sequences in a game I’ve ever played.”
As Dragon Age: The Veilguard resolves major story arcs and mysteries, the RPG’s creative director says that means Dragon Age 5 is a “possibility” for BioWare to “tell any story we want”.
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