A chalkboard has ignited a fierce Fallout TV show debate about whether the new series has retconned game canon

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Fallout TV show

TheFallout TV showalready has a canon controversy but, don’t worry, the ‘retcon’ to the game seriesreallyisn’t as important as it seems at first glance.Some spoilers for Fallout follow.

So, what’s the issue? Well, it all stems from a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it chalkboard during Lucy and Max’s impromptu trip to Vault 4.

It might sound like a huge cope about Shady Sands in a Fallout TV show but I thoroughly believe that The Fall of Shady Sands isn’t a nuke, notice how it is AFTER 2277, depicting that the annihilation happens at some point in 2280s.The Fall could be the loss of NCR influence. pic.twitter.com/Sos5KLzQK9April 12, 2024

It might sound like a huge cope about Shady Sands in a Fallout TV show but I thoroughly believe that The Fall of Shady Sands isn’t a nuke, notice how it is AFTER 2277, depicting that the annihilation happens at some point in 2280s.The Fall could be the loss of NCR influence. pic.twitter.com/Sos5KLzQK9April 12, 2024

On it, it says the ‘Fall of Shady Sands’ happens in 2277. If you know yourFallout timeline, you’ll be aware that it’s essentially an impossibility.

If the Fallout TV show is following canon (and the powers that behave said multiple timesthat itis), then, Fallout: New Vegas’ many references to the New California Republic (NCR) and Shady Sands in 2281 don’t quite add up.

Sure, maybesomeonein New Vegas could have mentioned the ‘fall’ of Shady Sands during the events of the Obsidian-developed game, but the arrow alone – signifying a future event – is enough to suggest that the outright nuking of Shady Sands comes post-2281 and the events of New Vegas.

Not to go into too much outright spoilers, but a later detail in theFallout endingabout Shady Sands’ fate also suggests it could easily have taken place a little later than 2277.

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Bethesda’s Emil Pagliarulo alsotweetedthat the studio has “never suggested” that New Vegas is anything other than canon. On top of that, there’s the small matter of whether we should take Vault-Tec propaganda at face value. Never a good idea, if you ask us.

So, a whole load of something over nothing? Possibly.Fallout season 2– if it happens – should reveal more in that regard. For now, maybe let’s chalk this one up to a slight overreaction.

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